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Znam zanesljivo izbirati med perfektom in navadnim preteklikom ter razumeti, zakaj je sogovornik izbral eno in ne drugo.

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Slovnica

15 min

Na A2 je bilo pravilo preprosto: če je čas dogodka imenovan — Past Simple, če ni — Present Perfect (A2 #20). Pravilo drži, a ne odgovori na glavno vprašanje: kaj izbrati, ko čas ni imenovan in se zdi, da ustrezata oba? Tu je vsa meja.

Oblika — za spomin:

Present Perfect Past Simple
trdilna poved I've lost my keys. I lost my keys.
nikalna poved She hasn't called. She didn't call.
vprašanje Have you seen it? Did you see it?

Glavna razlika — od kod gleda govorec. Present Perfect gleda iz „zdaj“: dogodek je bil v preteklosti, pogovor pa teče o tem, kaj je iz njega nastalo zdaj. Past Simple postavi dogodek v zaključeno preteklost, na svojo časovno polico, in pogovor teče o samem dogodku. Zato k perfektu sodi vprašanje „in kaj zdaj?“, k navadnemu pretekliku pa „kdaj je to bilo?“.

Kdaj izberemo Present Perfect.

Rezultat je viden zdaj: I've lost my keys — ključev ni, ne morem noter. Primerjaj: I lost my keys last week, but I found them — epizoda je zaprta, rezultata ni.

Novica. Prvo sporočilo o dogodku je skoraj vedno v perfektu, podrobnosti pa v Past Simple: podrobnosti dobijo čas in kraj, časa pa perfekt ne prenese.

Have you heard? They've closed the bridge. ← novica

Really? When did they close it? ← podrobnosti

On Monday. They found a crack in it.

Obdobje se še ni končalo: I've had three coffees today. Če se je obdobje končalo, je potreben Past Simple: I had three coffees yesterday. Enako se deli this morning: ob desetih dopoldne — I've drunk two coffees this morning, zvečer — I drank two coffees this morning.

Izkušnja človeka, ki živi, ali delo, ki se še lahko nadaljuje: She has written four novels. O tistem, čigar življenje je končano, — Past Simple: Dickens wrote fifteen novels.

Časovni kazalci pomagajo, a ne odločijo vsega:

običajno s Present Perfectom samo s Past Simple
just, already, yet, ever, so far, lately, since Monday yesterday, ago, last week, in May, when I was a child, the other day

never, recently, today, this week se pojavljajo z obema časoma, odloča pa isto: ali je obdobje končano. I've never been to Wales — življenje teče naprej; I never saw him again — zgodba je povedana do konca.

Britanska in ameriška angleščina. V ameriški angleščini z just, already, yet pogosto uporabijo Past Simple: Did you eat yet?, I just saw him. To ni napaka, a v britanski različici, ki se je učimo, rečejo Have you eaten yet? in I've just seen him.

Primerjaj:

I've lost my keys. Težava je zdaj: ključev ni.
I lost my keys. Zgodba: nekoč sem jih izgubil, zdaj bom povedal, kako je bilo.

Kako razumeti izbiro sogovornika. Čas glagola namigne, kaj človek pričakuje od tebe. Je rekel I've lost my keys — sporoča težavo in najbrž pričakuje pomoč ali sočutje. Je rekel I lost my keys — začenja zgodbo, sledile bodo podrobnosti. Vprašanje Have you seen Tom? pomeni „zdaj ga potrebujem“, Did you see Tom? pa se nanaša na konkreten primer, na primer na včerajšnjo zabavo.

Tako se ne reče. ✗ I've been in London last year → ✓ I was in London last year. last year zapre obdobje in perfekt z njim ni mogoč, četudi je potovanje tvoja izkušnja. Za izkušnjo brez časa — I've been to London (A2 #4).

Preveri se. Iščeš očala in rečeš prijatelju — I lost my glasses ali I've lost my glasses? Zakaj v vprašanju When did you buy it? ne more biti perfekta? Je večer, pripoveduješ o današnjem jutru: I've had ali I had two coffees this morning?

prikaži odgovore
I've lost my glasses — rezultat je zdaj, očal ni (I lost tako zveni v ameriški različici); when sprašuje po času, čas pa zahteva Past Simple; I had — jutro se je že končalo.
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Napake govorcev slovenščine

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1

When s perfektom

✗ When have they closed the bridge?

✓ When did they close the bridge?

„Kdaj so zaprli most?“ — slovenski preteklik je zgrajen podobno kot have closed (A2 #20), zato se znova ponudi perfekt. Toda when sprašuje po času, točnega časa pa Present Perfect ne prenese.

2

Perfekt z ago

✗ I've moved here two years ago

✓ I moved here two years ago

Perfekt se ponuja, ker je rezultat očiten: preselil sem se in živim tu. Toda ago imenuje točko v preteklosti, ta pa je močnejša od rezultata.

3

before namesto ago

„Pred dvema letoma“ → ✗ I moved here before two years → ✓ I moved here two years ago. Slovenski „pred“ stoji pred časovnim odsekom, angleški ago pa za njim; before pred odsekom v tem pomenu ne stoji.

4

Past Simple s since

✗ I didn't see him since Monday

✓ I haven't seen him since Monday

„Od ponedeljka ga nisem videl“ je v slovenščini preteklik. Toda since šteje obdobje do danes, nezaključeno obdobje pa je stvar perfekta.

Izgovorjava

3 min

Vsa razlika v govoru je kratek nenaglašen glas: /v/ v I've, /z/ ali /s/ v she's, it's.

I've lost it. /aɪv ˈlɒst ɪt/
I lost it. /aɪ ˈlɒst ɪt/

V hitrem govoru /v/ pred soglasnikom skoraj izgine, a ostane zveneč: ne postane /f/ in ne slovenski „u“, kakršnega slišimo na koncu besed „prav“ ali „nov“.

's — je to has ali is? Poglej naslednjo besedo. She's broken her arm — za 's stoji tretja oblika, torej has. She's tired — pridevnik, torej is. What's happened? /wɒts ˈhæpənd/ — has.

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Besedilo

5 min

You look worried. What's happened?

I've lost my wallet. I've looked everywhere — in my bag, in my coat, in the car — and I can't find it.

Oh no. When did you last have it?

This morning. I paid for a coffee at the station at about half past eight. Then I went to the library and spent two hours there.

Did you take it out in the library?

I don't think so. I bought a sandwich on the way back, but I paid with my phone.

Have you called the library?

Not yet. I've only just got back.

Well, call them now. And have you cancelled your bank card?

Yes, I've already done that. I did it on the bus.

Good. Has anyone tried to use it?

No, nothing has happened so far. I checked the app ten minutes ago.

Then don't panic. Someone has probably found it already.

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Vaje

30 min

1. Izbira.

  1. I (lose) my keys, and now I can't get into the house
  2. I (lose) my keys last week, but I found them the next day
  3. When they (close) the bridge?
  4. They (close) it on Monday
  5. you (ever / be) to Wales?
  6. I (not / see) Mark since the summer
  7. Charles Dickens (write) fifteen novels
  8. It's only eleven, and I (already / drink) three coffees
Prikaži odgovore
have lost; lost; did / close; closed; Have / ever been; haven't seen; wrote; have already drunk

2. Vstavi časovni kazalec:

  1. I haven't finished the report
  2. She moved to Bristol three years
  3. We've got back — give us five minutes
  4. I haven't seen him January
  5. we've sold forty tickets
  6. When did you see your wallet?
Prikaži odgovore
yet; ago; just; since; So far; last

3. Iskanje napak.

  1. When have they closed the bridge?
  2. I've moved here two years ago.
  3. I didn't see him since Monday.
  4. Have you seen the match yesterday?
  5. She has left the company in June.
Prikaži odgovore
When did they close the bridge?; I moved here two years ago; I haven't seen him since Monday; Did you see the match yesterday?; She left the company in June

4. Preoblikuj novico v vprašanje o podrobnostih

  1. They've closed the bridge. (when)
  2. I've bought a new car. (where)
  3. Anna has found a new job. (how)
  4. I've lost my wallet. (when / last / have)
  5. We've sold the flat. (how much / sell … for)
Prikaži odgovore
When did they close it? / When did they close the bridge?; Where did you buy it? / Where did you buy the car?; How did she find it? / How did Anna find it? / How did she find the job? / How did Anna find the job?; When did you last have it?; How much did you sell it for? / How much did you sell the flat for?

5. Prepiši in dodaj čas iz oklepaja.

  1. I've seen that film. (last week)
  2. She has called twice. (yesterday)
  3. We've been to Scotland. (in August)
  4. They've opened a new café. (a month ago)
  5. Have you finished the report? (on Friday)
Prikaži odgovore
I saw that film last week; She called twice yesterday; We went to Scotland in August / We were in Scotland in August; They opened a new café a month ago; Did you finish the report on Friday?

6. Odgovori s celimi povedmi

— o sebi. Rešitve spodaj so zgled. 1) What have you done today so far? 2) When did you last go to the cinema? 3) Have you ever lost something important? What happened?

Prikaži odgovore
I've answered my emails and I've been to the shop; I last went to the cinema a month ago. We saw a comedy; Yes, I have. I lost my passport on holiday a few years ago and had to go to the embassy
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Povzetek

Obravnavano: rezultat proti epizodi, novica in podrobnosti, nezaključeno obdobje, časovni kazalci in njihovi mejni primeri, britanska izbira z just, already, yet. Sledi lekcija 4: koliko časa se s tem že ukvarjam.

Konec jedra

Lekcija se šteje za opravljeno, ko so vaje končane. Vse po tem je izbirno.

Lekcija 76

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Besedišče za kartice

15 besed
  • wallet /ˈwɒlɪt/ denarnica
  • worried /ˈwʌrid/ zaskrbljen
  • everywhere /ˈevriweə/ povsod
  • bridge /brɪdʒ/ most
  • crack /kræk/ razpoka
  • so far /səʊ ˈfɑː/ doslej
  • lately /ˈleɪtli/ v zadnjem času
  • recently /ˈriːsntli/ nedavno
  • the other day /ði ˈʌðə deɪ/ pred nekaj dnevi
  • cancel /ˈkænsl/ preklicati, odpovedati
  • bank card /ˈbæŋk kɑːd/ bančna kartica
  • on the way back /ɒn ðə ˌweɪ ˈbæk/ na poti nazaj
  • panic /ˈpænɪk/ paničariti, zganjati paniko
  • novel /ˈnɒvl/ roman
  • app /æp/ aplikacija

Pisanje

Dialog iz osmih replik: nekaj si izgubil, sogovornik te sprašuje. Prva novica — v perfektu, podrobnosti — v navadnem pretekliku.

Zgled

— What's happened? — I've lost my phone. — When did you last have it? — I had it at lunch. I made a call from the café. — Have you called the café? — Yes, I have. They haven't found it yet. — Did you go anywhere after lunch? — I went to the bank, but I didn't take it out there.

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